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Episode 31 · March 30, 2026 · 53 min

The Shroud of Turin with Brian Mavis

Episode 31 artwork: The Shroud of Turin with Brian Mavis

“There is no current explanation as to how that image got there.”

This week on Delay The Decay, we welcome back Brian Mavis—founder of America’s Kids Belong and author of Go Upstream—for a Holy Week conversation about the Shroud of Turin. We talk about what shroud is, the Shroud’s dimensions and history, and why it captivates people: it bears unexplained imagery and markings consistent with crucifixion and real blood, without paint or dye.

He recounts decades of cynicism reinforced by the 1988 carbon-14 dating, then describes how later research—pollen claims, extensive study of conflicting sources, and an emotional moment reflecting on Jesus’ humiliation—shifted him toward believing it is Jesus’ authentic burial cloth. Brian also concerns about the carbon-dating protocol and data, notes key objections, connects the Shroud to Gospel burial-cloth details (especially John), and urges curiosity over judgment.

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Thank you Brian Mavis for returning as a guest on Delay the Decay!

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